Meet Me Afterschool

MEETING AFTER SCHOOL ATTENDED BY PRICIPAL S.T.., UFT REP P.B., AND MS UNTAMED

Principal S.T.: When I walked into your classroom on Oct 5, I asked you for a lesson plan and you said it was on your website. So then I walked around and saw that the children were working on their projects. I asked them about your website and they told me that you did have a website, so I took down the email address and that night I went on your website, but I did not see the lesson that you were teaching that day. You did hand in a lesson plan to Mr. Z. later, but you didn’t have the lesson plan available immediately on your website.

MS UNTAMED: I thought you said you went on my website that night.

P: Well, later that evening.

UNTAMED: Well, at night I work on the website. So I take things down and move things around.

P: But you said it was on the website and it wasn’t.

UNTAMED: Yes, but that was once I was home and working on it.

P: It wasn’t that late. It must have been 5:30 or 6:00.

UNTAMED: But at 3:00 as we were leaving, I gave Mr. Z. a written lesson plan that I took off the website. Sometimes, especially on weekends, I change the website after I go home,

P: The lesson plan you taught that day was not the lesson plan that was on the website..

UNTAMED: It was on the website at the moment you were in the classroom. Later that evening I was working on the website.

P: But that lesson plan that you gave me on Monday was not on the website on Friday.

UNTAMED: It was available when you came in the classroom that Friday, and it was available by the end of the weekend.

P: Between 3:00 and 6:00 you moved it off the website?

UNTAMED: Yes, because I gave it to Mr. Z. before I left the building. You had it .

P: You did not have a lesson plan available when I asked for it.

UNTAMED: It was available at that moment. It was available on the website when you came in.
When I go home, I can move things around so it might not be on the website two or three hours later because I am home working on it.

P: I have said this over and over again. You must have a lesson plan on your desk available to me when I come into your classroom.

UNTAMED: I understand that you say that, but what is the difference between having the lesson plan at the exact moment you walk into the classroom, or five minutes later, or an hour later?

P: The difference is that I can read the lesson. I can ask questions. As I’m looking around I can make sure that it matches up with what you are doing.


UNTAMED: That is why I have the website. You can look at the lesson plans before you even come in.

P: You told me that your lesson plan was on the computer and to go check. Why would you take it off?

UNTAMED: Because you already had it—I gave it to Mr. Z. before I left. On weekends, I go home and work on the website for the next week.

P; I went on again and couldn’t find it.

UNTAMED: Would you like to go on now?

P: No,

UNTAMED: Why not? Because I might be proved right?

P: No, because I’m not asking if it’s there now. Lesson plans need to be available when I come in.

UNTAMED: I made this website specifically so that you can go look at my plans before you come in and be familiar with what is going on.

P: Those lesson plans are not dated, they don’t go for the week. They are not in detail. Those lesson plans, I looked at them. They are not thorough. They do not go from day to day.

UNTAMED: (To the UFT representative) Now what do we do?

UFT Representative: At this point, lesson plans don’t need to be dated.

P: So then, have the lesson plan for the day available. Then it doesn’t have to be dated.
Her lesson plans are very general and broad. There wasn’t a lesson plan for that day. I couldn’t find it.

UNTAMED: I have proved that I have detailed lesson plans. My website is proof of that. The fact that I can’t provide it for you while I’m teaching in the classroom. I don’t think that should be a problem. I put everything on the website so that you and Mr. Z. can be familiar with what I am doing.

P: You are going to have to print out your lesson plan because I am not going to go to a website to look at it. That is not my rule. That is the Chancellor’s.

UNTAMED: Did they say I have to print out the lesson plan?

UFT Rep; I don’t think there is a precedent for lesson plans being on line and accessible to any administrator.

P: There is a precedent that says you must have a lesson plan and you must give it to an administrator when asked. There should be a lesson plan on the desk so that I don’t interrupt. And that’s it. I’m ending it.

UFT Rep: Ok if you’re ending it that’s fine. I’m going to do some research into this because the Regulations say nothing about a website, and I’m going to take the opinion that if the website is there, the lesson plans are there, and I think it is a wonderful idea, and I think that being on the website could work out well for everybody.

P: Not if I don’t have it.

UFT Rep: I think it could work out well for everybody. Let me try to find a way of making it work well for everybody,

P: That’s the end of it. MS UNTAMED, you’ll be getting a letter for your file.

UFT Rep: We’ll talk about it later.

P: No we won’t talk about it later.

UFT Rep: We’ll talk later and find a way of making it work.

The meeting ended.